A funny thing happened to me on the way to Kaneva
Posted on: July 29, 2007I decided I'd try Kaneva today. Awhile ago, I joked that every online world should have a slogan with "imagine" in it, so it made laugh that Kaneva's happens to be "Imagine what you can do", which, if you think about it, reads like the second part of Second Life's "Your World. Your Imagination."
Well then, I signed up, customized my appearance (very straightforward, but not much room for creative expression), and logged in… after awhile. I know, I've wished before that Second Life had a better, more compact auto-patcher, but can you imagine the look on my face when the initial Kaneva download was only 1.9 MB, then I found I had to download 271.6 MB of content? At least when I got in, things felt very smooth, albeit without much "weight" — this was in part because I didn't hear any sound initially.
After heading out of my blank house and jaunting around the wall, I then headed to a club (what's an online world without one?) and marveled that a YouTube video was playing inworld.
Before I had munch of a chance to dwell on my thoughts, I was asked… to take a picture! In my head, I was totally like, "OMG! That's soooo for me!" 
Sadly, as you can see, this crowd didn't have my best interests in mind. Some "jokes" never get old (I remember seeing this particularly variety well over a decade ago in IRC). But it did help me discover something else: no built-in snapshot system for Kaneva?
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July 29th, 2007 at 10:49 PM PDT
Torley said: "…But it did help me discover something else: no built-in snapshot system for Kaneva?…"
I reply: "Yep. Disappointing, is it? Plus, no camera controls!"
July 30th, 2007 at 3:10 AM PDT
I never tried Keneva… it is windows only and my win are not allowed to access the internet. So all I know about it is the second hand… and most of it makes me not to regret that I cannot run it.
But, one thing here really grabbed my attention: 271.6 MB to download! What it is? An operating system? Really, can somebody see what is inside the packages?
July 30th, 2007 at 4:02 AM PDT
Well well… does Uncle Philip know you ran off to the competition?
July 30th, 2007 at 4:17 AM PDT
I quit using the snapshot feature in SL when I was a week old or so. Sharpness is whacky and brightness is generally unmanageable for post-processing in PS. My ATI does a better job of packing the whole 1400x buffer to raw postscript and into a nice pdf, then to Photoshop. Kaneva's interface is probably not dynamically rendered as SL's is, I'd be more than happy to download a couple gigs of resources than having to give processor time to a UI. That idea of LL is just plain bizarre.
July 30th, 2007 at 4:32 AM PDT
"Well well… does Uncle Philip know you ran off to the competition? "
Shhhhhhhh…. Torley is in the spying mission….
July 31st, 2007 at 9:45 AM PDT
Wondering why Kaneva is so much megabytes? Here's why:
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Kaneva's rendering engine is much like The Sims 2's, plus, your downloading contains ALL inworld meshes, unlike SL's cache feature. They're automatically loaded as these Meshes are, unlike The Sims 2 (which have 200-400kb meshes), costs about 1-2MB per mesh
July 31st, 2007 at 11:10 AM PDT
Kicked out of Kaneva for drunk fighting over what… cuba libre? Torley, you somehow represent us all, right, so please behave, hopefully we won't have to migrate to other virtual worlds anytime soon despite all the difficulties in SL but if we do we'd have to deny knowing a watermelon Linden? Paleeze!
July 31st, 2007 at 2:40 PM PDT
Hehe, I came from Virtual Laguna Beach (now known as vMTV) to Second Life. Hmm, I remember seeing a video of Torley on Virtual Laguna Beach.
August 1st, 2007 at 7:03 AM PDT
Torley2 ? Has someone else got Torley !!
August 5th, 2007 at 7:50 AM PDT
I didn't look at the contents of the Kaneva download but wished I had been informed beforehand that the actual file size would be so big; I could've prepared better.
@Laetizia: Yes, previously I've reported on my experiences in other online worlds. I'm always eager to see what else is being done out there, whether it's a service somewhat similar to Second Life, or a single-player game I can draw graphical and usability experience from, etc.
@starcomber: How do you do that with ATI? Is that like, a really, really hi-rez snapshot? And oh, the "drunk fighting" thing was a Twitter entry based in fiction. I didn't do anything like that!
@Smiley: Thanks for filling that in.
@Spikez: Yup, I have this video: http://youtube.com/watch?v=Tokp_hfOgBw
@Trinity: "Torley" is me too, but I botched my email addy so I had to signup again.
August 8th, 2007 at 7:28 AM PDT
I agree. Kaneva needs a snapshot system to make things easy for the user. Someone mentioned there were no camera controls. There are, actually. You can change from 3rd person (behind), to 1st person, to 3rd person (front) by pressing the "Z" key.
Siva
August 19th, 2007 at 5:58 AM PDT
@Siva: Thanks for the tip!
October 1st, 2007 at 3:05 AM PDT
[...] A funny thing happened to me on the way to Kaneva [...]
November 2nd, 2007 at 6:34 AM PDT
btw… I saw you guy complaing about camera feature, I am sure you will be glad to know that with the new version that came out (called Wolrd of Kaneva V2.0) there is feature to zoom in and out, look up & down, and rotate camera(without rotateing Avie)…
the size of a full of the download was cut for +270mb to about 180mb…
just though I would inform you guys..
(btw.. if you still have the old version on your PC, unistall that first, then redownload the the installation launcher from Kaneva.com…)
hope to see ya all in the World of Kaneva soon
November 4th, 2007 at 5:59 PM PST
@A Kaneva Fan: Oh, that's good to know, I really do like the new art of the kaneva.com website, even if some of it is noticeably post-processed and not as good as the actual graphics I'd see inworld (I'm particular that way). Thanks for sharing this tip!
November 21st, 2007 at 9:56 PM PST
heyya thats my brothers club
i luv kaneva
iv ben there 4 ever dont hate on it
kaneva 2.0 is alot different though