Much ado about YouTube

2006-11-12

I frequent YouTube to search for clips from my past: music videos I've enjoyed years ago, portions of fave animated series like Transformers, and other movies I didn't pay enough attention to the first time around. I also enjoy viewing contemporary videos I haven't ever seen before, but I don't spend as much time on those.

Recently, I acquired a YouTube Director account, primarily because I needed to upload the >10-min. Advanced Snapshot Magic. I also customized my channel.

YouTube's a lot of fun, but I hope Google helps give them a good working-over soon, because some things really bug me:

  • QuickLists don't appear to save across computers, even if I'm logged in as the same account on both.

  • Favorites lists and other parts of the site are out-of-sync: numerous times, I've added a video as a Favorite and it didn't show up in my collection until months later.
  • Also, you can't move videos out of your main "My Favorites"; you merely can copy them, and for the aformentioned reason, that's cluttered too. I wish they were a lot more sortable.
  • Saving certain preferences are broken in my experience: for weeks, I've been trying to change my birthdate, and it doesn't work.
  • You can't see a list of the recent comments you made on others' videos. I know adoption of this is comparatively rare, but Flickr does it beautifully.
  • Videos are relatively low-quality, and are downsampled and can't retain a larger size (e.g., 640×480). This makes it impractical for tutorials and related materials which demand fine detail.
  • Flash video processing can take hours. Times appear to vary depending on active queue, but seeing as how uploading a vid can take a long time in the first place, having an agonizing wait after the fact is even more masochistic.
  • Search (Google's stronghold) is problematic: searching for "Vangelis" leads to partial matches not even containing the full word, like Chinese clips named "Xom Vang".
  • Horribly annoying ads. Anyone who's seen the "YOU'VE WON A FREE* LAPTOP!" one knows what I'm talking about. :\ I can't imagine that being compatible with Google's values.
  • On that tip, uneven graphic design is another problem: while the YouTube player looks very sleek and well-shaded, we have tabs that don't match other tabs! For instance, look at the "Related" tab to the right of a video, and compare its gradient look to the tab bar near the top of the screen.
  • Too much comment spam/crap. All manner of nasty, useless trash in most long comment threads I come across.

That's what I can think of off the top of my head.

One amusing anecdote: I was the first to comment in the popular "Noah takes a photo of himself every day for 6 years." video that the music sounded like Philip Glass' — it's by Carly Comando. You can find it if you can load the comments thread without getting an an internal server error. But my quotes can still be sourced here. I'm not alone! To compare, there used to a vid of Glass playing his original, very similar-sounding music, but alas, 'twas removed.

Another suggestion for YouTube: break comments up into dynamically-loading pages so you can flip through them without interrupting your video watching. And I do like to watch.

{ 8 comments… read them below or add one }

Kei Mars / Miss K 2006-11-13 at 8:16 AM UTC

Like a lot of social things YouTube's greatest asset is the community and the huge volume of content they provide. But it is a fugly website, I agree, incosnsistently designed, frustrating to use, badly cached and often borked. Bit like MySpace, which still I feel obliged to use as a musician.

Have you seen this? http://tubularapp.com/blog/ It looks very interesting (I know you don't have a Mac) but it's an attempt to impose a different UI layer on the YouTube content.

Chronic Skronski 2006-11-13 at 11:12 AM UTC

A friend mentioned the YouTube ads to me. "Ads? WHAT ads?", said I. I then saw the site on Internet Explorer without Adblock. Oh MY. It looks as bad as a gambling site.

I think a lot of YouTube's problem was that they grew much faster than they were prepared to deal with – something we're all familiar with. ;)

As for the comments – I have never seen a more concentrated collection of Evil as I have on YouTube. I usually mark the extremely hateful ones as spam, since there is no +/- threshold system (which I feel most comments threads should utilize especially if there are going to be hundreds of posts without much moderation).

Torley 2006-11-13 at 7:05 PM UTC

Kei, that looks very streamlined! Curious in seeing how it performs on my Mac (when it's out). I once saw a Web 2.0 do-over of MySpace too, I wonder where that went.

Chronic, hahaha "as bad as a gambling site" — I know about those 'cause I used to frequent them. Thank goodness my pockets didn't go empty being on 'em… but SL gambling was too easy to dish out L$ with. I used to spend hours on the Spittoonie roulette! Thank goodness I stopped.

I'd also be remiss if I didn't state that a lot of ideas I see in my personal time are ones I'd like to apply to the Official Linden Blog, which has its share of voluminous comments. Having something Digg-style, as well as a way to highlight Linden-made comments, would be better than nice.

Fede Argentina!! 2006-11-21 at 10:00 AM UTC

Hi everyone, first of all sry for my english….i´m from Argentina and i need to get a director account from utube…i fill the form a thousand times and nothing happens an error message appears that says : Please enter your signature to consent to the agreement. The signature must match the name entered as the contact person. But im doing that….i don´t know what it could be…i need help, can anyone help me? Thankz a lot….regards to all of u..
My mail es federicobossio@hotmail.com
Fede.-

Torley 2006-11-22 at 11:21 PM UTC

Pardon Fede, alas, I am not YouTube support. I'm unable to help you further with acquiring a Director account. All I know is I sent it through fine, but as you can see from what I wrote, I've had numerous problems with YouTube. At latest, all the videos on the search overview pages are showing up for me with 2.5 stars! @_@

G Sai Satish 2008-10-21 at 8:38 AM UTC

Hello!

I was very happy to find my favourate video's on Youtube website at last!!!

But mainly I am upset with some reasons:

1) When requested a video, it takes a long time to load and play and finally even after loading it keeps on freezing and playing resulting a small clip to play for a long time instead of short time and boaring.

2) The fine software needed to solve this problem i.e. playing video's uninterupptedly is unknown.

3) To save or copy procedure is very lengthy and boaring. Instead of giving a option as 'Save', 'Copy', 'Paste' etc!

Please give me a proper solution!!!

Waiting for your reply on my ID

Thanks!
Regards

Gwyneth Llewelyn 2008-10-25 at 2:18 AM UTC

LOL Torley… it seems that your helpful tips have made you a honorary YouTube Mentor :)

Anyway, YouTube does have its quirks indeed. However, with the recent announcements by Vimeo, covered by Ordinal Malaprop, they seem to disallow SL machinimas these days. Worse: blip.tv might be going the same route soon :(

MySpace has now introduced a "content filter" to remove music from videos (I'm certain that YouTube will do the same soon, too). I guess the "good old days" of basically uploading whatever you wish are now over…

Torley 2008-11-01 at 11:31 AM UTC

@G Sai Satish: I'm sorry due to time constraints, I can't reply on YouTube's own messaging system. And I don't work for YouTube so I can't provide official support — I've seen #1 on some, but not all videos. I don't know what's causing it. Some other video sites have more elegant embed systems, so you may want to see: http://torley.com/which-video-sharing-site-should-you-use-a-quick-conclusion

@Gwyneth: I'd have to see the most recent policies, but I see some sites distinguishing between "raw gameplay footage" vs. "machinima" (which often has a narrative).

But, there are still game/raw-friendly sites, like http://wegame.com and the http://xfire.com I've been so enthusiastic about recently! They are ALL ABOUT games!

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